Gentleman

I wonder, and not sure if this is wrong to ask. I am so old fashioned that I still think, when we would have a first date. With good place to eat, maybe little bit expensive, good wine, conversation, both exited, turned on and enjoy each others company.

Is it wrong to think then, the man pay? Is it no more so? In Switzerland unfortunately, lot of men come up with the, #metoo and emancipation and want to share the bill or even (worse for me) want that I pay.

Don’t get me wrong Men, I would enjoy the second Date, that I invite you, and do anything you enjoy, but I like to be treated as a Lady on the first date.

I’m a bit old fashioned in the sense that if a man asked a woman out on a date a real date then he pays for the meal and activities.

I wouldn't say the guy paying is a given, but I believe who ever asks the other out should pay.

Normally, the guy is the one initiating the first date. But if a woman asks a guy out, I wouldn't say the paid meal is a given. This is extremely niche but when Tinder first started blowing up I heard of several stories of women asking guys out simply for a free meal and then ghosting them. An outlier, but it happens.

Quote by dream_weaver

I’m a bit old fashioned in the sense that if a man asked a woman out on a date a real date then he pays for the meal and activities.

It might be cultural or maybe when and how you were raised, but I'm with you. If I ask somebody out on a date (whatever that entails - food, drink, entertainment), I pay.

If I ask a lady on a date I'm the one paying. No question!

I always pay. And never expect anything in return. If we connect and there are more dates I do like it when she may offer to pay - that shows class and she is not a taker.

Haven't dated in decades, but I think that if it's a true, formal, dress-up date, as opposed to a casual hangout that may or not lead to more, the guy should still be expected to pay. Especially for the first couple of dates, as beatnik pointed out. Only exception might be if she obviously makes a lot more than him.

Worth mentioning that dressing up for nice dates (which many men expect of the women they go out with) tends to be a lot more expensive for women than for men. That should be reason enough, even without the pay gap that makes the dinner and drinks a bigger disposable-income burden for most women than for most men. For a guy to plead #metoo (what in the actual fuck) or hide behind some pretend rainbows-and-unicorns-equality bullshit is pretty assholeish. I'd hope that alone might be disqualifying, but that's for the woman to decide.

All that said, if I ever date again I'll probably go out with men as much as women, so the question would be kinda moot.