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I'm a mainstream fantasy reader, so I trend toward higher degrees of story and world-building when it comes to reading things like that. Otherwise, it depends upon the day, whether I'm reading or writing. I may dash off a quick fantasy story without much setup like "Little Fuckers" or I may be working on a 50-60k story with minimal and sometimes even weirdly dispassionate sex about a prostitute setting out to start her own brothel and running into dangerous competition from the local whore in "One Whore's Town".

I like to have interesting characters, but it doesn't take 5k words to set that up. Someone can be interesting in a couple of sentences. The situation leading to the sex can be the same. While I prefer to write extremely detailed sex scenes ( also one of my calling cards ) I don't necessarily need them in what I read.

Really impossible for me to answer either writing or reading. I'm all over the map.

Can I recommend one of my stories, relatively new, but have touch of fantasy and world building, but there is also the erotic aspect that we all enjoy, so I recommend to give it a read and share your thoughts and ideas on how to move it forward, I would really like some pointers on how to flesh out this new world I’ve created

I’m definitely more story now and less sex. I guess I’ve written and read so many stories, I’m bored with the sex. I know that probably sounds weird for an erotic writer. I’m hoping it’s just a phase I’m going through. I cringe reading certain words and phrases now: honey, nectar, puckered star to name a few. Loved those descriptions the first dozen times I read them, but no more.

As a writer, I'm kind of leaning to 100% story these days and focussing on material that will end up on SS (or maybe other markets). But for here, I'd say somewhere between the 50-50 option and the 25-75 option lies my sweet spot. Where a given story lands depends on the story.

As a reader, probably around the 50-50 mark. If I'm reading smut, I generally there for the sex, not just a story.

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I’m definitely more story now and less sex. I guess I’ve written and read so many stories, I’m bored with the sex. I know that probably sounds weird for an erotic writer....

Doesn't sound weird to me. I get that way as well where writing sex seems repetitive and almost mechanical - foreplay -> oral for him -> oral for her -> penetration in a handful of positions -> climax. The formula is pretty basic and there's really only so much you can do with it. Without a good amount of back story to charge up the tension and give it meaning, like Carlton mentioned above, it all gets a bit boring.

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Doesn't sound weird to me. I get that way as well where writing sex seems repetitive and almost mechanical - foreplay -> oral for him -> oral for her -> penetration in a handful of positions -> climax. The formula is pretty basic and there's really only so much you can do with it. Without a good amount of back story to charge up the tension and give it meaning, like Carlton mentioned above, it all gets a bit boring.

Most of the time, I find writing the non-sex parts more fascinating than the sex itself. When it comes time to write the sex, many times I take a break from writing the draft and only write the sex when I'm feeling randy. This could be days apart.

It's a great hobby, but sometimes it can leave you feeling a bit flat.

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Doesn't sound weird to me. I get that way as well where writing sex seems repetitive and almost mechanical - foreplay -> oral for him -> oral for her -> penetration in a handful of positions -> climax. The formula is pretty basic and there's really only so much you can do with it. Without a good amount of back story to charge up the tension and give it meaning, like Carlton mentioned above, it all gets a bit boring.

I think part of my problem as a writer is that it gets hard to get really imaginative on the physical part, especially with my generally vanilla experiences. I actually find it easier to deal with the setting, character, and plot elements than the sexual ones these days. And eventually I decide that I can't be bothered with the sex anymore. I have two characters in my current writing project who probably should be hopping into bed eventually (not this story, a future one) but I will probably keep it at SS levels and put the grisly details offscreen.

For me as an author it is neither about the sex or the story it is about either the concept or the characterisation. Usually if I decide to write it is the concept that comes first. A micro series, a dialogue only series, a series about lock down and it's emotional and psychological impacts, a tongue in cheek series poking fun at all the erotica tropes, or a self-absorbed agony aunt series to name but a few. Usually I will want the reader to discover the character of the narrator as they journey through the story, sometimes this will be explicit and sometimes less so. Inevitably there will be some sexual content and occasionally this won't be awfully written but, to be honest, that's just the cherry I offer up in the hope that you might read the rest of my piffle xxx

Thinking about what the writer gets out of doing something being of primary importance does not, in my view, make anyone a 'bad' person who does it. Neither does creating something that you know will have its faults, but is an honest expression of your imagination, Not having to concern yourself with mass approval is very liberating, as is creating something that might not be written particularly 'well', but manages to make a stranger somewhere smile.

Large numbers of people saying they like what you've done is something to be proud of. So too is managing to make a story that is true to what was in your head when you decided to do so, with or without it being ' popular'

I remember a particular piece of fiction that I had to 'dissect' as part of a university degree course paper. By the end of the process. even though I did 'well', with the analysis, I resented the book. Three years later, I read the book as a cure for boredom and quite liked it.

People who like to write for uncomplicated escapism are not the enemy of those who take it all seriously. Someone may enjoy a piece of fiction for exactly the reasons many others hate it. 'If only people could be more like computers.' Yes, that was something else I succeeded in dissecting. I did so by cynically telling the over-analysts exactly what I knew they wanted to hear.

The ' mechanics' of the subject area here probably do have a point at which most variables have been exhausted, The creativity around those mechanics? I think and hope not.

Feel free to disagree/ agree / not care about any of the above!

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Not having to concern yourself with mass approval is very liberating, as is creating something that might not be written particularly 'well', but manages to make a stranger somewhere smile.

Wholeheartedly agree! I’ve been writing a while now. My reasons for doing so change from time to time, but what remains the same is that I lose my joy in writing if I get too concerned with stats. Making one person smile is as fulfilling as making 100 smile. Otherwise, you devalue the one, in my opinion.

With my boredom writing sex, I’m venturing into different characters that I know won’t appeal to the masses, but the challenge is bringing me so much joy! I’m into darker themes of late. Imperfect endings. And the authors I’m drawn to now immerse me into their unique characters, setting, etc so that the sex is the accompaniment, not the main focus.

That's at least two of us then. We should form a defiant smile-makers' club!

I’ve recently hit a roadblock with a series I’ve been working on (Kingdom Of Elyria) for sometime and I’m not sure where I can go with it, or if people are still interested in the story, I’d like some pointers if anyone can have read and possibly give me a direction or anywhere I can go with it, to possibly tie up the story

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The ' mechanics' of the subject area here probably do have a point at which most variables have been exhausted, The creativity around those mechanics? I think and hope not.

I agree. I love the build up, the scene setting, the world description, the why the are doing it. Sometimes I wonder if I need the 'insert cock A into pussy B' and 'insert cock A into Mouth B' bits which read as rather mechanical.

Like Kimmi, I enjoy the darker side of the street with questionable morals as it provides more plot potential than the Miles & Boom type stories that I've never been very good at. Or maybe I just love the conflict and the drama.

How dull would life be if we all liked the same thing? My experience in the real world limits what I feel I can include in my writing, It does so according to my 'rules' for me and is no criticism of anyone who does differently. Killing the beast of a bad experience was a part of my latest, beginner-level effort, which I have never experienced, but the act involved and the consequences of betrayal are, just not at the same time. I love to see the opinion and variety that is out there, but I'm comfortable with what I write and not looking to expand my horizons, I might seem boring, conventional and timid to some, which is fine, as I'm also happy!

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As a writer, I'm kind of leaning to 100% story these days and focussing on material that will end up on SS (or maybe other markets). But for here, I'd say somewhere between the 50-50 option and the 25-75 option lies my sweet spot. Where a given story lands depends on the story.

As a reader, probably around the 50-50 mark. If I'm reading smut, I generally there for the sex, not just a story.

That looks like a carbon copy of here, sans erotica.

A few stupid guidlines, too...

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That looks like a carbon copy of here, sans erotica.

It is the same ownership and software, basically Lush's sister site for publishing non-erotic, mostly SFW fiction.

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It is the same ownership and software, basically Lush's sister site for publishing non-erotic, mostly SFW fiction.

Oh! Kinda like how FFN has FictionPress. I just might make an account on there. I've been wanting a place that isn't Wattpad for my non-erotic work. FictionPress doesn't work with my phone or Firefox, SOL is annoying as shit, and Writingdotcom only gives you ten free slots, and Quotev doesn't seem to have a large active userbase.

Depends on my mood, sometimes i want to jump right into the steamy parts, other times I want a long build up. In any case, I want a reason to give a crap about the characters, so there needs to be some sort of story interwoven.

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Depends on my mood, sometimes i want to jump right into the steamy parts, other times I want a long build up. In any case, I want a reason to give a crap about the characters, so there needs to be some sort of story interwoven.

And unfortuantely that isn't always the case. I stop reading a lot of stories if they're just "sex scenes" pieced together.